It’s Rocky IV versus Independence Day in this no-holds-barred Baconsale brawl. Joel tries to prove that ID4 is the most “America!” movie ever, while Kent tri-JOEL DOESN’T LET KENT TALK! Grill some meat, light your sparklers and give a bald eagle a high five, because this is the most red, white and blue episode of Baconsale yet!
Baconsale 
Crispy waves of bacon?
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Oh beautiful is Beckinsale, with ample plates of bacon. For Kevin Bacon’s majesty across the silver screen. America, America, we love kevin and kate. And Joel thinks well of every film, but Kent just likes to hate.
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Now THAT’S what we should have sung!
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In the first Red Dawn it was Russia who invaded.
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The fact that America was in a position to be invaded shows a weak America, that is why Red Dawn isn’t a good ‘Merica movie.
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Vanilla actually comes from a plant that is native to meso-america. But the first vanilla ice cream was made in France. However Thomas Jefferson created his own recipe for vanilla ice cream…
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Since Miracle is based on a true story, I think it should be disqualified. It is a great movie, but it isn’t as ‘Merica as Rocky IV and ID4.
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Mr. Smith is a “United States of America” movie not a ‘MERICA movie.
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Rocky IV did not end the Cold War – Ronald Reagan did.
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Anybody who calls middle America “slack-jawed yokels” has no cred with the ‘Merica crowd.
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By the way, how did Rocky change? It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie.
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Exactly! Way to alienate your audience, Kent!
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Independence Day is diverse and shows a great cross section of America. It also shows how we Americans work together to fight a threat.
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You just made my comment about diversity.
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BTW – Jeff Goldblum is Jewish so there is one more aspect of diversity.
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The alien atmosphere in the ship and the ships fuel lines could have contributed to the increase in the atomic bombs explosion.
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ID4 is a ‘MERICA movie because it shows ‘Merica solving the world’s problems…dominating over the world and alien invaders from another world… Rocky IV may be a great movie, but ID4 is still the better ‘MERICA movie.
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Agreed.
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Sylvester Stalone is anti-gun – ie. ANTI 2nd AMENDMENT!!! Ie. ANTI AMERICAN!!!
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David and Goliath is not a ‘MERICA story.
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You just made my point!!! I am way ahead of you.
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How do we know you’re not just posting these AFTER you hear me say it?
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By us placing the American Flag on the moon, we claimed the Moon as our territory.
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ID4 is “silly beyond reason” but Rocky IV has a pleasure robot!
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I think you missed The SANDLOT as a great Merica movie. Baseball! Fireworks! Smores! Hot babes in swimsuits. MERICA!!!
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It’s a classic, but the question is if it more “America!” than Rocky IV or ID4.
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Honestly, I’m disappointed that An American Tail was never discussed… Talk about the Mer’can dream.
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This is Joel’s brother, Spencer. Kent is right.
If needed, I can submit as evidence the old VHS we had of Rocky IV that is totally worn out from the number of times we watched it together. (Rocky II is in mint condition… just like the copy of Independence Day.)
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Traitor!
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I think both movies were very American, so good choices on both sides. However, I think Independence Day is more American (even though I do like Rocky 4 better). My reason is, Independence Day has a ton of American stuff in it and ends with everyone coming together to win. So, everyone works together to be the hero. Go America. In Rocky 4 There’s some American stuff and the movie ends with the focus on Rocky being the hero. Go Rocky.
On another note, this podcast was fun and I thoroughly enjoyed it!
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You are wise, Blake. Thanks for the comment!
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